Kommentare zu: Aviv Geffen: “Germany is a great place with great people” http://www.hagalil.com/archiv/2009/08/06/aviv-geffen/ Nachrichten zu Israel und Judentum Sun, 12 Feb 2012 16:55:25 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 Von: Piet http://www.hagalil.com/archiv/2009/08/06/aviv-geffen/comment-page-1/#comment-5872 Piet Mon, 21 Sep 2009 12:42:32 +0000 http://www.hagalil.com/archiv/?p=4864#comment-5872 Why do you think Germans (btw: Are German jews Germans or jews?) listen to Israeli’s music only to compensate someone for something? Whom do Germans compensate for what when they listen to The Beatles or The Stones? Wasn’t it racist if Germans decided not to visit Israeli’s concerts because someone _could think_ they only did it for compensation reasons? Or wasn’t it just juvenile?   Nobody represents anyone (as a nation or whatever) in whole. So does(’nt) Aviv. Everybody who knows a little bit about Israeli society knows that. Tell you what: It’s o.k. ;-) German society isn’t homogeneous, too. (And to have said that: For me, Aviv’s Music isn’t a picture of „German dreams“ of a peaceful but weak Israel or something like that. It’s just a window and furthermore beautiful music full of poetry, at a beautiful club just round the corner.) There must be a reason that Aviv Geffen is a very popular musician in Israel, whether he represents it or not. Why do you think Germans (btw: Are German jews Germans or jews?) listen to Israeli’s music only to compensate someone for something? Whom do Germans compensate for what when they listen to The Beatles or The Stones? Wasn’t it racist if Germans decided not to visit Israeli’s concerts because someone _could think_ they only did it for compensation reasons? Or wasn’t it just juvenile?
 
Nobody represents anyone (as a nation or whatever) in whole. So does(’nt) Aviv. Everybody who knows a little bit about Israeli society knows that. Tell you what: It’s o.k. ;-) German society isn’t homogeneous, too. (And to have said that: For me, Aviv’s Music isn’t a picture of „German dreams“ of a peaceful but weak Israel or something like that. It’s just a window and furthermore beautiful music full of poetry, at a beautiful club just round the corner.) There must be a reason that Aviv Geffen is a very popular musician in Israel, whether he represents it or not.

]]> Von: An Israeli guy http://www.hagalil.com/archiv/2009/08/06/aviv-geffen/comment-page-1/#comment-5870 An Israeli guy Mon, 21 Sep 2009 10:17:35 +0000 http://www.hagalil.com/archiv/?p=4864#comment-5870 1. Whether Aviv Geffen's friends "do shopping" in East-Jerusalem or in Tel Aviv, it doesn't change a thing about Jerusalem being the heart of Jews and the heart of the world. It's their problem they don't get the point of the wracks of the holy temple (that was desturcted about 2000 years ago) way before Abu Masen's ancesters arrived from Jordan to the land of the Jews. 2. About machoism in Israel - everybody knows Jewish husbands are the best husbands - caring and sensitive. King David was an excellent warrior, yet he wrote Psalms :) A worrier, a governer and... A POET. He didn't need to wear dressed to express his sensitive side. So are Jewish soldiers today... sooner or later - we'll all follow his footsteps. 3. Aviv Geffen's weakness during Friday's susnsets is because his Jewish "naked soul" YEARS for FAITH in God... and SHABBAT starts that time (the holy day for Jews). If he had known the power SHABBAT gives jews, he would have been much more calm and could overcome his childhood. 4. The German audience doesn't need to pay to see him in order to compensate the Jewish people for the Holocaust - he doesn't represent us (although of course he is a loved part of us). 1. Whether Aviv Geffen’s friends “do shopping” in East-Jerusalem or in Tel Aviv, it doesn’t change a thing about Jerusalem being the heart of Jews and the heart of the world. It’s their problem they don’t get the point of the wracks of the holy temple (that was desturcted about 2000 years ago) way before Abu Masen’s ancesters arrived from Jordan to the land of the Jews.

2. About machoism in Israel – everybody knows Jewish husbands are the best husbands – caring and sensitive. King David was an excellent warrior, yet he wrote Psalms :) A worrier, a governer and… A POET. He didn’t need to wear dressed to express his sensitive side. So are Jewish soldiers today… sooner or later – we’ll all follow his footsteps.

3. Aviv Geffen’s weakness during Friday’s susnsets is because his Jewish “naked soul” YEARS for FAITH in God… and SHABBAT starts that time (the holy day for Jews). If he had known the power SHABBAT gives jews, he would have been much more calm and could overcome his childhood.

4. The German audience doesn’t need to pay to see him in order to compensate the Jewish people for the Holocaust – he doesn’t represent us (although of course he is a loved part of us).

]]> Von: Piet http://www.hagalil.com/archiv/2009/08/06/aviv-geffen/comment-page-1/#comment-5095 Piet Thu, 06 Aug 2009 15:13:55 +0000 http://www.hagalil.com/archiv/?p=4864#comment-5095 Wonderful! The „Knust“ is a great place to be, so I'm looking forward to seeing him in November! :-) Wonderful! The „Knust“ is a great place to be, so I’m looking forward to seeing him in November! :-)

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